Scotland one step closer to independence?

Cyberus said:
And you know this how?
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"Know" it? Can't be sure - but it looks like I left out the link I was commenting on.


Racist comments, nice, thank you. I ascribe 0% credibility to racists.
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More like "self-hating Sassenach". Though I am of Anglo-Saxon and Frisian heritage and have never had other than a Canadian passport I spent my formative years in the UK receiving all my schooling up to O Level and learned history and geography from an English point of view and identify as ex-pat.
However, it was my experience from living in the south, near the seat of government, that Scotland received almost as much respect from Westminster as Ireland did (a separate country by then). In fact it seemed that anything north of Watford was looked upon with a certain degree of derision. UK's interest in Scotland is primarily North Sea oil (even though it's running out) and a place to stick their subs because the English don't want them.

I still think it's a good taunt. A taunt I called it and a taunt it is.
 
the_leander said:
So what you're saying is that on top of the land only being land thanks to the dike systems, it's only as high as it is thanks to it being sat on a giant whoopie cushion?
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Not only thanks to the dike system, before there were dikes, there were terps. But essentially, you're right. Though the dikes are always under surveillance, because of the earthquakes, now more than ever.
You guys just can't catch a break can you? :lol:
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Nope. Keeps us sharp, that it does.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
"Know" it? Can't be sure - but it looks like I left out the link I was commenting on.



More like "self-hating Sassenach". Though I am of Anglo-Saxon and Frisian heritage and have never had other than a Canadian passport I spent my formative years in the UK receiving all my schooling up to O Level and learned history and geography from an English point of view and identify as ex-pat.
However, it was my experience from living in the south, near the seat of government, that Scotland received almost as much respect from Westminster as Ireland did (a separate country by then). In fact it seemed that anything north of Watford was looked upon with a certain degree of derision. UK's interest in Scotland is primarily North Sea oil (even though it's running out) and a place to stick their subs because the English don't want them.

I still think it's a good taunt. A taunt I called it and a taunt it is.
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Sounds familiar....
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
UK's interest in Scotland is primarily North Sea oil (even though it's running out) and a place to stick their subs because the English don't want them.
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As close to a 'nutshell' summary as you'll get anywhere..
 
is it true that there's "lots" of oil on the west coast of Scotland??
I mean I've heard that from pro-independent people as a reason Scotland could be very wealthy just on her own......
 
There is still time to challenge the result and people are working on it. Hurry. Push for judicial review. It's not a done deal.

(From Naomi Klein)
So the BBC lied to you, Scotland. It is true that the Referendum Bill of 2013 forbids the CHIEF COUNTING OFFICER from recounting votes after they have been declared. But it does not forbid anyone ELSE from recounting the votes and it gives any person in Scotland the power to request and receive the register of the votes. So…you may not be able to revote (this time around) but you can all ASK FOR AND RECEIVE the full tally of votes and see what the outcome really was. And….the votes have not yet been certified. They are certified six weeks from now. So the election is not actually legally 'over.' You can as you see 'bring proceedings for a petition of a judicial review' for the next five weeks.

You need to "apply to the supervisory jurisdiction of the Court of Session' to get a judicial review. And at this point we need to ask a Scottish barrister what exactly that means.

But Scotland -- your process is not over. They are trying to trick you in saying the process is over. That vote count only stands if it rests for six weeks without a petition for a judicial review. Please share widely. And remember -- every single one of you has the right to ask for the register of votes in your council and receive it to review it in a public place.

34Restriction on legal challenge to referendum result

(1)No court may entertain any proceedings for questioning the number of ballot papers counted or votes cast as certified by a counting officer or by the Chief Counting Officer under section 7(2)(b) or (as the case may be) (4) unless—
(a)the proceedings are brought by way of a petition for judicial review, and
(b)the petition is lodged before the end of the permitted period.
(2)In subsection (1)(b) “the permitted period” means the period of 6 weeks beginning with—
(a)the day on which the officer in question makes the certification as to the number of ballot papers counted and votes cast in the referendum, or
(b)if the officer makes more than one such certification, the day on which the last is made.
(3)In subsection (1), references to a petition for judicial review are references to an application to the supervisory jurisdiction of the Court of Session.
 
You see Robert, great powers conspired against you. You never had a chance. The only way forward now is to burn down some English police stations or maybe blow up a bus in London. That will ensure a swift and brutal retaliation that will overwhelmingly push everyone over to the yes side. And when the time comes for weapons I'm sure our pal FuckedupMcDeath will find you some good Russian ones at a fair market price.
 
Glaucus said:
You see Robert, great powers conspired against you.
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But that shouldn't even be a surprise. Every vote is fiddled to an extent and it's been part of the game for as long as there's been voting - there are rules and then there's how much you can bend them because if you win you don't have to apologize.
The only way forward now is to burn down some English police stations or maybe blow up a bus in London.
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Your opening was a statement of the obvious but now you've wandered off into the loonysphere but I guess the new Glaucus is a Glaucus that believes that violence is the solution to all problems.
And when the time comes for weapons I'm sure our pal FuckedupMcDeath will find you some good Russian ones at a fair market price.
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Don't you worry. There are plenty of surplus American weapons sloshing around the globe. Maybe when ISIS is finished with them ...
 
I know of at least one twitterist who has changed his location to "Scotlandshire, North Britain"
 
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