#notmywar

Robert said:
Short summary of the Azov brigade that Putin's "denazification of Ukraine" propaganda seems to be based upon.
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Haven't watched the video yet (at work), but western media outlets were reporting on actual goose-stepping N@zis for the past decade, up to and including this January. If it's Russian propaganda now, it was western propaganda back then. We're not talking 1 or 2 articles, we're talking tons of them from various top end mainstream sources.
 
redrumloa said:
... western media outlets were reporting on actual goose-stepping N@zis for the past decade...
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No goose-stepping that I'm aware of but certainly some ultra-nationalist Nazi sympathisers on both sides.
There is a long-standing neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine and there is a long-standing neo-Nazi problem in Russia.

If it's Russian propaganda now, it was western propaganda back then.
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The Russian propaganda now - coming straight from the Kremlin, not media outlets - is that Ukraine is run by actual Nazis and needs to be "denazified". I don't recall any Western media outlet ever claiming Russia is run by actual Nazis, never mind the White House saying so. If they did they would be rightly ridiculed.
 
Not sure if this is a positive or a negative for Russia.

Goldman Sachs Becomes the First Major Wall Street Bank to Leave Russia​

oldman Sachs to Shutter Russian Services​

US bank Goldman Sachs has confirmed leaving the Russian market following the sanctions on the country. Goldman is the first major international investment bank after other companies to exit Russia. The bank communicated the development through an E-mail yesterday.

“Goldman Sachs is winding down its business in Russia in compliance with regulatory and licensing requirements,” said a bank spokeswoman. “We are focused on supporting our clients across the globe in managing or closing out pre-existing obligations in the market and ensuring the well-being of our people.”
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The bank is making the move after the third week of Putin’s attempt to overthrow the Ukrainian government. It follows other major companies like Apple, Google, Visa, and Mastercard, the first to leave. Retail brands like McDonald’s and Starbucks have also left the Russian market.
 
redrumloa said:
Putin feared and respected Drumpf.
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HA! hardly. putin fears no one, first of all and certainly doesn't respect trump.

this is one reason putin was hoping trump would continue in the White House:

www.businessinsider.com

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term

Bolton, who once worked for Trump, also said the former president's "main interest" in Ukraine was trying to "find Hillary Clinton's computer server."
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
cecilia said:
HA! hardly. putin fears no one, first of all and certainly doesn't respect trump.

this is one reason putin was hoping trump would continue in the White House:

www.businessinsider.com

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term

Bolton, who once worked for Trump, also said the former president's "main interest" in Ukraine was trying to "find Hillary Clinton's computer server."
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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Bush Jr, Obama and Biden all have one thing in common, Putin invaded a country on their watch. Trump is the only president in that period Putin did not invade a country.
 
redrumloa said:
Drumpf is the only president in that period Putin did not invade a country.
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ONLY because he was waiting for trump to weaken the relationship between Ukraine and the "West", NOT because trump is so "awesome" or other such nonsense.
Bolton is a douchebag but even he could see what was going on
 
...and those people are Democrats, just like in WWII.


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Just how twisted is this nonsense getting? Republican draft dodging^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^hdeferring, lowlife, Vulture Capitalist, tying dog to roof of car for across country trip, Mitt Romney accuses Democrat Tulsi Gabbard, an active member of the military for decades, who's been deployed previously, of treason, a crime punishable by death. Somehow the Liberal Media clap like seals praising Romney (R), while attacking Gabbard (D) who's active military.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=389444022993403

If you don't want to watch the entire Tucker segment, just find her original video statement. It's pretty milquetoast. Propaganda is not just limited to Putie Poot and the commies.

What are they hiding? Or are they simply hell bent on WWIII? If someone points out easily verifiable facts and have a mild concern, you are labeled as treasonous. The long knives come out.

@FluffyMcDeath We need more of you in here. You're seeking the facts in a sea of garbage like I am.
 
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redrumloa said:
Straight propaganda here. They do not play her whole video statement, which is not long.

Tulsi Gabbard Demands Romney Resign After Calling Her a 'Treasonous Liar'​

Watch the embedded video here, then watch her original unedited video. They only show like a 10 second clip of her talking.
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This story has passed me by but from a brief scan it seems to be something along the lines of:
There are biolabs in Ukraine funded by the USA.
Putin said they are for bio-weapons.
Gabbard said if that's so it's illegal.
Romney accused her of "endangering lives" by saying they were, rather than saying "if that's so..".
Gabbard responds telling him to apologise or resign.

Is that about the size of it?
If so, seems like the usual political grand-standing and over-reaction from both of them.

That aside, this part of the article has been all over Facebook for the last week or so:
The theory that dangerous American-funded labs exist in Ukraine has also become associated with the QAnon conspiracy theorists, who have said without evidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine with the support of former President Donald Trump to destroy labs that are linked to Dr. Anthony Fauci.
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Robert said:
This story has passed me by but from a brief scan it seems to be something along the lines of:
There are biolabs in Ukraine funded by the USA.
Putin said they are for bio-weapons.
Gabbard said if that's so it's illegal.
Romney accused her of "endangering lives" by saying they were, rather than saying "if that's so..".
Gabbard responds telling him to apologise or resign.

Is that about the size of it?
If so, seems like the usual political grand-standing and over-reaction from both of them.

That aside, this part of the article has been all over Facebook for the last week or so:
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You missed the part where Romney accuses her of treason, a crime punishable by death.
 
redrumloa said:
You missed the part where Romney accuses her of treason, a crime punishable by death.
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I did say it was over-reaction and political grand-standing. I'm not sure how him spouting such nonsense changes that.
 
The theory that dangerous American-funded labs exist in Ukraine has also become associated with the QAnon conspiracy theorists, who have said without evidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine with the support of former President Donald Trump to destroy labs that are linked to Dr. Anthony Fauci.
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I wouldn't so quickly dismiss the labs as Qanon nonsense. I saw and read about them early on, with map overlays showing Pootie's first strikes lined up with their locations. These were reasonable sources, not some Q drop stuff. I didn't post here because I could not 100% verify and is inflammatory. The more I see and hear, the more I am leaning towards them being bioweapon labs. We already know that Faucci and much of our government have been lying through their teeth about the Wuhan lab and the source of the coof. It would not be a stretch to think the Wuhan lab was not in isolation.
 
Robert said:
I did say it was over-reaction and political grand-standing. I'm not sure how him spouting such nonsense changes that.
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Problem is, the mainstream media and pop culture will only report favorably on Romney here while attacking Gabbard. The plebs will just nod along, saying stuff like Romney is the only Republican they like. They are desperate to control the narrative and dissuade anyone from independent thought.
 
redrumloa said:
I wouldn't so quickly dismiss the labs as Qanon nonsense. I saw and read about them early on, with map overlays showing Pootie's first strikes lined up with their locations. These were reasonable sources, not some Q drop stuff. I didn't post here because I could not 100% verify and is inflammatory. The more I see and hear, the more I am leaning towards them being bioweapon labs. We already know that Faucci and much of our government have been lying through their teeth about the Wuhan lab and the source of the coof. It would not be a stretch to think the Wuhan lab was not in isolation.
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I'm not dismissing the possibility of weapons labs. It wouldn't surprise me if there are bioweapons labs. After all, most countries have similar research. What is risible is most of the rest of the story.
 

BREAKING: Fox News Cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski Killed In Ukraine​

Veteran Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski was killed in Ukraine after his vehicle was hit by incoming fire outside of Kyiv on Monday, Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott has announced. Fox News journalist Benjamin Hall was also injured.

“It is with great sadness and a heavy heart that we share the news this morning regarding our beloved cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski,” Scott said.

“Pierre was a war zone photographer who covered nearly every international story for FOX News from Iraq to Afghanistan to Syria during his long tenure with us,” she added. “His passion and talent as a journalist were unmatched.”

“Pierre was a constant in all of our international coverage. I, like countless others, always felt an extra sense of reassurance when arriving on the scene and seeing him with camera in hand,” Fox News president and executive editor Jay Wallace said Tuesday. “The legacy of his positive spirit, boundless energy and eye for the story will carry on.”

“We extend our deepest condolences to Pierre’s wife Michelle and family,” Scott wrote to Fox News Media staff. “Please keep them all in your prayers. And please continue to pray for Benjamin Hall.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503751851350667265
 
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