Unemployment Charts Before The Media Spin

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  1. Dammy Well-Known Member

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    those "not in the labor force" surged from 86.7 million to 87.9 million!

    Obama only needs to convince 4 mil more people to join the "not in the Labor Force" to get to 6% unemployment by election day!

    "YES WE CAN!"
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    its amazing how good Obama is at the conservative accounting chicanery game....

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    Obama is very good at creating moochers

    That Obama requested this month to raise the debt ceiling to $16.4 trillion, shows he has no clue about accounting or debt
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    Funny part is this lady has disappeared, even here phone is was disconnected. Wonder how she likes her mortgage and gasoline being paid for by Obama!
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    well the workplace environment has certainly changed largely because of automation and/or robotics.... the numbers look really bad but worlwide its about the same all over.... oh yeah and did i say it was obamas fault? all of it? no? my bad.... this shit been going south before reagan, you just noticing now?
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    Looking at the "labor force participation chart" something happened, that drastically changed peoples attitudes about seeking employment about January 2009

    "YES WE CAN!"
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    Yah, it's called the people who were laid off in mid 2007 ran out the end of their unemployment benefits. The "labor participation" chart only means that people are collecting unemployment. It doesn't reflect anything about actually looking for work, at all.

    It's no coincidence that when the benefits are shortened, a few months later a bunch more people suddenly "change their attitude" all at once, thus reducing "unemployment." Of course, those people still aren't actually working, but since they're no longer collecting unemployment, they're just dropped from the figures, altogether, as they're no longer "participating."
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    As much as Congress polls in the 11% we still reelect about 80% of them. This fall I'm very dubious that we'll vote out 90% of the officals up for election. I expect the majority will retain their seats.

    Obama poll numbers are up to just better than a 50% approval rating. If the job numbers continue to hold positive or grow he'll be reelected.

    A large part of the economy is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If people think it'll be bad then it's bad. Personal opinions of the economy are positive. Way more positive than the 2008 election. This is what happens when every sector is hiring, except for Gov, and GDP is on the upswing. So unless something major happens (European collapse would be one good example) any Republican Presidental candidate is going to have an uphill battle.
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    I will be voting for the other guy.
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    If the truth can't get out, you are more then likely correct. If the truth does get out to the American public (like U6 data), his goose is cooked. There is a point where the MSM can't spin the awful truth any further without the American public waking up that they have been conned into thinking things are getting better. As such, I fully expect Obama to attack Iran if not a full invasion to save his worthless political ass. Of course, the media doesn't want anyone to think about: http://usdebtclock.org/

    And there is a part of me that actually wants Obama to win.:wrong:
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    The truth is that this is a 3 decade old problem, created by both parties, and neither has a direction out

    If Obama subscribes to a wartime president is always reelected, something we saw with Bush II express and used with Iraq, is an interesting question. We'll see if that's the case or not. Most of the other statistics, at present, tend towards the reelection of Obama. Lots can happen in 10 months. (Well all others stats except for height. Predominately the taller man wins. Mitt has Newt beat by about 4" and Obama beat by 1".) (Yes Red we know Ron Paul is 7' on platform shoes so he'll certainly win.)
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    Ron Paul places second in Minnesota caucus

    Not bad for someone the media largely ignores and the voting public has been brainwashed as throwing their vote away for. Wouldn't it be nice if the general public would actually think for themselves, instead of letting the TV tell them what to think?
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    You beat me to the punch this morning. I heard that on the way in. With Rick Santorum as #1. Ron Paul always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Paul's power, if any, this election will be in helping to frame the debate.

    Another note is within Minnesota the Republican Caucus turned out an all time low in voters for the event. The question is did they figure out how worthless the event is OR do they simply not care about their own candiates? For the Republicans this isn't unique other States are also seeing record low Republican turn out.

    I'd be highly suprised to see Minnesota go Republican President this election. *Of course with the standard cavot of some major earth shattering event, such as European financial problems spilling into the US prior to the election*
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    eh... he's just as god awful as all the rest... and in spite of his few moments of "maverickness" he is a career politician and equivocator of word and deed...
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    So who (any party) are you pulling for?

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