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  1. redrumloa

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    ...if #pizzagate is fake and pedophilia is not rampant in Hollywood and Democrat leadership in the US, explain this movement.

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    Why is this sort of shit popping up everywhere?
     
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    Who is actually behind it and how widespread is its support?

    I've seen an article by buzzfeed by a self professed pedo, but the response in the comments was universal disgust.

    Likewise when various pedos were uncovered during gamergate, with precious few people rushing to their aid. Those that did try to do anything other than pillory were at best half hearted attempts at damage control.

    Is there something messed up in the far left? Absolutely, without question. In the same way that there is in the far right. Extremes tend to attract those whose ideas are not tolerated by the moderate majority of either leaning
     
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    I can't say for sure this flyer image that's gone semi-viral, it may or may not be fake. But in general it seems a whole lot of left leaning media outlets are pushing for normalization. Salon is just one example. It appears they pulled their video, but here is an article about it.

    Salon Reveals the Left's Next Play, Normalization of Pedophilia

    The left-wing website Salon just released a stomach-turning video attempting to normalize pedophilia. The video's narrator, a young pedophile, explains his "sexuality" and brands himself as a pedophile but not a "monster" or "child molester."

    The man says pedophilia is "not something he chose" but something he will have to live with for the rest of his life. He adds, "not all pedophiles are child molesters, and not all child molesters are pedophiles."

    He says his purpose now is to educate people about his "sexuality," which he allegedly does on his website for "virtuous pedophiles."

    Politically, you can see how the left is moving the country towards a total acceptance society. By labeling pedophilia as a "sexuality" Salon is pushing for pedophiles to perhaps, one day, have their own special "rights."


    When one of these left leaning outlets puts out something like this, there are actually a large number of commentators in the feedback supportive of normalization.

    Tony Lawson: "Blown away by the comments and the normalisation of this. It's not accepted for a reason. It's a mental illness and it needs to be dealt with. They need advanced psychotherapy."

    It isn't just Salon either, a whole number of left wing outlets are getting in the game. Vice is doing it's part to try humanizing pedophiles so society sees them as oppressed victims. They also push the narrative that pedophilia is a "sexual preference".

    Realizing You're a Pedophile Can Make You Want to Kill Yourself

    "When you have a sexual preference that is as stigmatizing as pedophilia, then there's nowhere to go with it, there's no one to really talk to about it," said Professor Michael Miner, one of the study's co-authors. "So you stew in your isolation, which certainly makes one depressed."

    This stuff goes on and on. You have top leftist icons such as Lena Dunham writing in her memoir that she sexually molested her younger sister and wants to make a movie about pedo incest. That's all accepted enough where she was paraded around as one of the top Clinton Surrogates.

    And it goes all the way to the top of the Democrat Party. Even refusing to look at the Pizzagate evidence, there is absolutely no way to defend Bill Clinton.

    Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known

    Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

    Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.” The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.

    “Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile,” said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called "TrafficKing." “Why would a former president associate with a man like that?”

    Epstein, who counts among his pals royal figures, heads of state, celebrities and fellow billionaires, spent 13 months in prison and home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 to service his friends on “Orgy Island,” an estate on Epstein's 72-acre island, called Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands.


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    He took at least 26 documented trips on "Lolita Express" to "Pedophile Island". There is no way to explain this away as something he didn't know about and partake in. That's why this is never discussed in the Liberal media, and only barely touched on in some outlets like Fox. I've posted numerous times about Bill and Hillary Clinton personally involved in child trafficking in Haiti, which the Liberal Media has completely ignored.

    The Clinton-Silsby Trafficking Scandal And How The Media Attempted To Ignore/Cover It Up

    Contrary to reports in the media, the crowd sourced investigation labeled by some as "Pizzagate" did not begin with internet sleuths digging through the Wikileaks Podesta Files releases looking for pizza parlors and encoded language discussing human trafficking. It began with the shocking discovery that Hillary and Bill Clinton provided assistance to convicted child trafficker, Laura Silsby, resulting in a reduced sentence for child trafficking.

    Silsby was arrested at the Haitian border attempting to smuggle 33 children out of Haiti without documentation. Her sentence and charges were reduced after an intervention by Bill Clinton. In the aftermath of Silsby's arrest, her originally retained lawyer Jorge Puello was arrested in connection with an international smuggling ring accused of trafficking women and minors from Central America and Haiti. The revelation of this news in November was either ignored by the Western media or attacked by Clinton controlled publications.


    I could google and post more sources, but I think I've made my point here. This isn't a fringe problem, it goes from the bottom to the very top of the Democrat Party. That doesn't mean every Democrat is a pedo, but it sure seems their media outlets are conditioning them to accept normalization of it. It also seems that pedophilia is rampant in their ranks, especially near the top of their political party. It is also the #1 problem in Hollywood, according to former child actors such as Corey Feldman.

    Here's the bigger problem. Unless the left is willing to willing to address the issue and clean up their own house, they could set back gay acceptance badly. One of the far rights original arguments against normalization of homosexuality was that it would be a slippery slope to normalizing pedophilia. And guess what, that is what we see playing out right now. Just as most on the right has accepted homosexuality, the left could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and set this all back decades.
     
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    It is mostly in red's imagination, I am afraid.

    The line between extremes and moderates can be blurry: Texan senators voted to legalize beastiality in the military... Of course, the bill was written by and passed due to votes from - drum roll - self-proclaimed "conservative" Republicans.
     
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    I actually stopped and took a couple of days to think through my answer to this, because it's not a cut and dry issue.

    "The Left" is not actually a particularly useful term and here is where I have to tip my hat to Metalman. He pointed out, what 2 years ago? A specific faction within the left that seemed to the root of this.

    He correctly pointed to the "progressives" as the source.

    They represent a very specific mindset, rooted in Critical Race theory, Post Modernism all tied together with a fast and loose reading of Marx. They are every bit as authoritarian as anything the Religious Right can muster.

    Now back to your point (which I broadly agree with). Whilst much of the left were championing for gay rights, progressives doing so weren't doing it as a rights issue, but merely a means to bolster their own platform. It was a talking point, a means to beat down hardline conservatives (as well as moderates on the left alike) and little more. The reason I am comfortable making this claim is that the moment gays got their rights, but showed themselves to be unwilling to toe the party line, they were not only thrown under the bus, but their sexuality was panned as being misogyny's final form. So that's part of it.

    The other part is something I've seen described as pathological altruism. That desire to be inclusive, even to the point where it is patently harmful, as in the case of paedophiles.

    From what I can see, outside of their little bubbles, there is very little support from the wider left. However as more moderate voices have effectively been sidelined, that lack of support counts for very little. Essentially this is the Left being overrun by the loony fringe, just as the Right was a 30+ years ago when the religious extremists were invited in. It took a long time, but they gained power and left you asking "dude, where's my party?"

    Even now the Right is still putting out those fires. Chances are it'll take just as long again to fully cleanse the Republican party of their influence.

    The Left has been largely blindsided as most of these radicals quietly took power in Universities, whilst the moderates went out and had families and generally got on with life.

    Progressivism makes up a small, but extremely powerful force on the left, far greater than their numbers would indicate. It is well connected, entrenched in academia and the media and is extremely radical.

    To undo the damage it is doing in academia will likely take a couple of generations, it's influence in the media might take longer. Frankly I suspect whatever usurps the current mainstream media's audience will likely be every bit as partisan and fact free when it suits.

    I've seen some right wing news outlets already making the point you did.
     
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    Very specifically "progressives" have ideologically embraced "the Frankfort school of Critical Theory" and "Social Justice"



     
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    The interesting (and terrifying) thing is that with a handful of scripts and a couple hundred bucks of Amazon resources, it is downright simple to trend any message you want, thus controlling much more of the conversation than most people imagine.

    Certainly there are extremist idiots on both sides. But, to me, at least, it looks more and more like someone or some group is artificially inflating their numbers and reach.

    At what point do you have to assume that we are actually in the middle of a subtle, but deliberate full information war?
     
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    You'll probably appreciate this video. It's about half hour long but pretty sobering. The guy making the video makes it very clear he doesn't know whether these people are just trolls or not, but if they are trolls it is a huge network of them coordinating it. It doesn't seem like trolls to me to be honest, these people seem pretty serious. But either way the bigger picture is the fact that these people are openly advocating pedophilia on Youtube and Twitter, right out in the open, and both Youtube and Twitter refuse to remove the content. Both these platforms go out of their way to censor Conseratives for simply being conservative, but have absolutely no problem with open promotion of pedophilia.

     
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    Seattle’s Gay Mayor Accused of Sexually Molesting Teens in the 1980s

    A trio of men came forward to allege that Murray had sex with them decades ago when they were underage. At least one said he was 15 when the mayor molested him back in the 1980s, according to the Seattle Times.

    A man identified only as “D.H.”, now 46, filed a lawsuit against the 61-year-old Murray alleging that the famed mayor and activist began molesting him when he was only 15 and exacerbated problems he had during his life starting when he was a teen. He also claims that Murray was fully aware of his underage status.

    D.H. claims that he has been “dealing with this for over 30 years,” and filed the lawsuit as part of the “healing process.” The accuser said he hoped the lawsuit would help him to repair his mental issues after years of “the shame, the embarrassment, the guilt, the humiliation that I put myself through and that he put me through.”

    The plaintiff also alleged that he took money from Murray for the sexual encounters up to 50 times over a four or five year period.

    D.H. is not the first to accuse Murray, one of the state’s most powerful politicians, of sexual abuse that occurred decades ago. Murray, 61, has known of other allegations for years, and has quietly, but vigorously denied them.
     
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    JoBBo is a perfect example of the problem. I point out how widespread the problem is and how it is all interconnected, and he blows it off like I'm a tinfoil hatter. Even when the AP themselves focus on an egregious example, it never gets traction. Pedophiles and child traffickers like the Clintons and the UN never get prosecuted. Only rarely does a sacrificial lamb like Jerry Epstein get charged. Usually even that doesn't happen because a Clinton will personally intervene.

    Once again back to Haiti, a country already pointed out to be the epicenter of Clinton Foundation Child sex slavery.

    Report: U.N. ‘Peacekeepers’ Ran Child Sex Ring In Haiti, Not A Single One Faced Jail

    The Associated Press reports that at least 134 U.N. peacekeepers ran a child sex ring in Haiti from 2004 to 2007, with not a single one going to jail.

    According to the Associated Press, the U.N. was made aware of this through an internal report. Following the report, 114 of the peacekeepers were sent home. Not a single one of them faced jail time.

    AP states that the men would lure the children – as young as 12 – with cookies, other snacks and sometimes a few dollars.

    One of the victims quoted in the U.N.’s report said that from ages 12 to 15, she had sex with almost 50 peacekeepers, including a “Commandant.”

    “I did not even have breasts,” she reportedly told U.N. investigators.

    AP states that “justice for victims like V01 is rare.” What’s not rare? Sexual abuse controversies involving U.N. officials.

    The Associated Press reports that it uncovered 2,000 allegations of sex abuse by U.N. peacekeepers and personnel over the past 12 years. More than 300 of the alleged incidents involved children “but only a fraction of the alleged perpetrators served jail time.”

    Of course, reports of U.N. sexual abuse scandals are nothing new.

    As journalist Michelle Malkin pointed out following AP’s publishing of its report, this issue has been known of for years.



    But it's all in my head, right JoBBo? Why is it that the royal families, the UN, the Clintons and leftist elites can engage in human trafficking, child sex slavery and pedophilia at will and often right out in the open? Why is this OK in your mind? If we only focus on Haiti at the moment, you cannot deny the evidence which I have repeatedly pointed out. It is less of a crime in your mind because they are Haitians?
     
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    I think the first time I heard about this was Kosovo, but it's a regular part of war probably going back to the dawn of man. It's just another good reason not to have wars (or let our owners have them).
     
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    There's no war in Haiti, just pedophiles like the Clintons and the UN.
     
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    Report: Documents Expose Link Between Antifa & Pro-Pedophilia Group NAMBLA

    By Any Means Necessary (BAMN), the violent leftist “anti-fascist” group, is reportedly tied to NAMBLA, a prominent pro-pedophilia organization.

    According to The Daily Caller, BAMN’s parent organization – the Revolutionary Workers League – “worked directly with the North American Man/Boy Love Association in the years just before it founded BAMN.”

    The outlet, citing NAMBLA documents, states a founding member of BAMN is “an admitted member of NAMBLA.”

    Those documents were reportedly provided to The Daily Caller by “an anonymous group of researchers” that dubs themselves “the shadowy and/or mysterious organization known as Antifaleaks.”

    One of the bulletins provided by “Antifaleaks” reads, “[the Revolutionary Workers League] is supporting of gay rights in general and NAMBLA in particular.”

    As The Daily Caller puts it, the bulletin further contains “detailed, erotic stories about naked young boys.”

    As for the member of BAMN reportedly associated with NAMBLA, that would be Eileen Scheff.

    The Daily Caller describes Scheff as BAMN founder and co-chair Shanta Driver’s “former law partner who has represented BAMN on multiple occasions, including at the Supreme Court.”

    According to a book titled Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism, Scheff gave a talk at a NAMBLA press conference in 1992 in which she said, “the current witch-hunt against NAMBLA has nothing to do with protecting children. Denying youth their sexuality will not stop child molestation.”

    Even more disturbingly, The Daily Caller reports that Scheff also claimed, “the media and police are targeting NAMBLA because it stands for the rights of young people to have consensual sex with whomever they want.”

    “I call on all progressive people in the lesbian/gay community, in the women’s movement, and in the community at large to defend NAMBLA and its right to advocate for consensual sex regardless of age.”

     
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    At a certain point you just have to accept this is who they are, considering they don't even try to hide it any longer.

    CNN Used Leading Democrat Convicted of Child Porn in Survey Group to Bash Trump and Promote Fake Russia Story

    Jacob Schwartz, 29, was a New York de Blasio administration staffer and a rising young Democratic figure before revelations came out about his obsession with child porn. The de Blasio administration, an administration plagued with corruption and poor policy, can now add one child porn to their laundry list of crimes and corruption.

    Schwartz was surrender to police for having over 3,000 images and 89 videos on a laptop. Some of the material discovered involved baby girls aging as young as 6 months old, court documents revealed Friday.

    NYPD computer-crimes investigators accepted Schwartz’s surrender Thursday morning. Schwartz has been under investigation since March 29, 2017, when he gave officers written permission to search his laptop.


    Schwartz is the president of the Manhattan Young Democrats and the “downstate region vice president of the New York State Young Democrats”.

    VIA NY Post:

    The illegal smut shows “young nude females between the approximate ages of 6 months and 16, engaging in sexual conduct… on an adult male,” court papers say.

    Schwartz’s father — labor lawyer and Democratic insider Arthur Schwartz — called his son’s case “a personal tragedy.”

    “I understand these are serious charges,” said the elder Schwartz, who watched his son get arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court on Thursday night.

    “He’s already in therapy for this.

    Now this – CNN used Schwartz in a small group survey after the election where he blamed Hillary for losing the election because of the fake Russia – Trump connection.



    Pedophilia=Democrat
    Democrat=Pedophile
    They are interchangeable.
     
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    Hey JoBBo, is it all in the Attorney General's imagination too?

    Attorney General Sessions: Crimes against children among worst in U.S.

    Crimes against children are among the worst in America, and technology has made it even easier for predators to reach their victims, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Tuesday.

    But fighting these types of crimes will remain a priority under his leadership, Sessions said during a speech in Atlanta.

    “I want you to know that we can, we are now and we will continue to make a difference and protect children that need to be protected,” he said.

    Sessions spoke Tuesday morning at the opening session of the National Law Enforcement Conference on Human Exploitation at the Sheraton Atlanta Hotel. The three-day conference, held for the fourth year in Atlanta, expects 1,500 people to attend.

    With local, state and federal law enforcement working together, Sessions said the efforts send a clear message to those targeting children.

    “You will not harm our kids, and we will never rest until we find you and bring you to justice for your appalling acts,” he said.
     
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    Clearly going after the bible belt demographic. The "it's not sex if it's anal" gambit is a very popular moral end run amongst the religious.
     

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