Ready for the next Ice Age? Winter is coming.

[redrumloa]

I'll just leave this here:

The same "science" that says gender is a "social construct"?

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The same "science" that says gender is a "social construct"?

Nope.
(And I think most scientists already know that those kinds of "scientists" are cranks and crackpots.)

 

[Robert]

In an interview with CNBC on Monday, US Energy Secretary Rick Perry said that carbon dioxide emissions from human activities aren't the primary driver of climate change. Instead, the former Texas governor responded that "most likely the primary control knob is the ocean waters and this environment that we live in."

It’s unclear how Perry envisions this “control knob” and how it works; a generous analysis of his answer would be that he misunderstood the question.
...
Oddly, Perry continued by affirming that climate change is happening and that we have to do something about it. The secretary told CNBC, “The fact is, this shouldn't be a debate about 'Is the climate changing? Is man having an effect on it?' Yeah, we are.

More depressingly ignorant idiocy in the Ars article.

 

[Robert]

'the best data we have' just got hotter

A new paper just published in the Journal of Climate is a stunning setback for the darling of cherry-picking for contrarian scientists and elected officials. Let’s walk though this so we appreciate the impact.

The vast majority of scientists know that the climate is changing, humans are the main reason, and there are going to be severe consequences. We have decades of measurements that prove our understanding of this process. There is simply no debate or dispute.

Except there is dispute.
Granted the dispute gets more ludicrous with every passing day but it's still there.

Despite this, there are a shrinking number of contrarian scientists, elected officials, and industry representatives that have spent endless time trying to downplay the impact. They have variously argued that the climate isn’t changing, that the changes won’t be very much, or that there are no viable solutions to the problem. Much of their position relies upon finding evidence that the current observations of warming are not great. That is, the Earth is not warming as fast as predictions.

To support this incorrect (and intellectually dishonest) position, contrarians have scoured the data for any evidence at all that suggests the Earth is not warming.

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For those who only follow climate science on the periphery, they may have heard phrases like “global warming stopped 15 years ago,” “climate models got it wrong,” “we don’t really know if it is warming,” etc. There is now no reason whatsoever to believe these claims. We who work in the field knew these assertions were baseless, but now hopefully the people making them will retract.

 

[redrumloa]

This scam is unraveling at a breakneck speed.

NASA REPORT: Antarctic Ice Sheet is Actually… Growing By Billions of Tons

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.

According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

NASA REPORT: Antarctic Ice Sheet is Actually… Growing By Billions of Tons

From the Nasa Report

Zwally’s team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of East Antarctica remained steady from 1992 to 2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of West Antarctica and the Antarctic Peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.

“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is not accounted for.”

 

[redrumloa]

Global warming fraudsters are being forced to admit they are just making shit up as they go.

Climate Alarmists Finally Admit ‘We Were Wrong About Global Warming’

This, the scientists admit, is next to impossible. Which means their “carbon budget” – the amount of CO2 they say is needed to increase global warming by a certain degree – is wrong. This in turn means that the computer models they’ve been using to scare the world with tales of man-made climate doom are wrong too.

One researcher – from the alarmist side of the argument, not the skeptical one – has described the paper’s conclusion as “breathtaking” in its implications.

He’s right. The scientists who’ve written this paper aren’t climate skeptics. They’re longstanding warmists, implacable foes of climate skeptics, and they’re also actually the people responsible for producing the IPCC’s carbon budget.

In other words, this represents the most massive climbdown from the alarmist camp.

As always, the actual science behind it proves there is no such thing as AGW. "Global Warming" is not even pseudoscience, it is a cult for low IQ people with the cult leaders being historic fraudsters. They're not ready to throw in the towel yet though.

But this is not, unfortunately, a cause for wild celebrations in the street. ManBearPig has been scotched but by no means been slain. Nor are the alarmists yet ready to admit the full scale of their errors.

This is little more than a damage limitation exercise by scamsters who know they’ve been caught cheating and have now been forced to concede at least some territory to their opponents for fear of looking ridiculous.

When all is said and done, I hope we have Nuremberg style trials for the Al Gores and George Soroses of the world for trying to enslave the global population.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Global warming fraudsters are being forced to admit they are just making shit up as they go.

So... according to the MODELS these guys used, which is to say 66% of the MODELS in a particular recognised standard set of many MODELS, after adjustments - these guys figured that IF WE CUT BACK CARBON OUTPUT AS PER THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD, we could see a mere 1.5C WARMING instead of 2C WARMING - if they are correct.

I see.

 

[Robert]

So... according to the MODELS these guys used, which is to say 66% of the MODELS in a particular recognised standard set of many MODELS, after adjustments - these guys figured that IF WE CUT BACK CARBON OUTPUT AS PER THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD, we could see a mere 1.5C WARMING instead of 2C WARMING - if they are correct.

I see.

Some commentary on this:

 

[redrumloa]

NASA REPORT: Antarctic Ice Sheet is Actually… Growing By Billions of Tons?

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.

According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

 

[redrumloa]

Report: Most Signatories Are ‘Ignoring’ or ‘Abandoning’ Paris Climate Commitments

Following President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord, a number of other nations have quietly begun ignoring the Paris energy goals, according to a new report out of Canada.

According to Lawrence Solomon of Energy Probe, a Toronto-based environmental organization, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is one of the only signers of the Paris agreement who is actually abiding by the exacting demands of the accord.

Meanwhile, Solomon notes in an essay in Friday’s Financial Post, “most signatories are ignoring, if not altogether abandoning Paris commitments, undoubtedly because voters in large part put no stock in scary global warming scenarios.”

“Trudeau now stands almost alone in sincere support of Paris,” Solomon writes. “The populist backlash — a revulsion at top-down governments laden with jet-setting politicians landing in posh places to preach restraint to the masses — has swept America with Trump’s election, Great Britain with Brexit, much of Europe, and Australia.”

“In the process, global warming enthusiasts are being swept out,” he writes.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Some commentary on this:

potholer54 - thought I recognised his voice.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Some commentary on this:

So the story is not that climate change is false, but that we might still have a chance of avoiding total disaster.

 

[Robert]

potholer54 - thought I recognised his voice.

Yes, I've been a subscriber to his channel for years. He isn't always bang on but usually does a good job of pointing out bullshit.

 

[Robert]

.... outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

Wait, Antartica has thinning glaciers?
Why on earth would that be?
What happened to "biggest hoax in human history"?

More seriously:
1. We seem to have a different definition of "new" in this context. That study is two years old and, IIRC, already discussed on here.
2. The study's lead author predicted that some would distort the study, even though it does nothing to contradict the scientific consensus on climate change or the fact that sea levels will continue to rise. Well done proving him right, albeit you're a couple of years late to the party.

-EDIT-
Just noticed, you posted the same story a few months back and Fluffy pointed out a flaw in the "story".
So you posted it again yesterday without addressing the flaw?

 

[metalman]

At the Last Glacial Maximum around 25,000 years ago, North America had more glacial ice than Antarctica has now
Global sea level at the Last Glacial Maximum was ~120 m lower than present

 

[redrumloa]

400 Scientific Papers in 2017 Say ‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth

What they are saying in their different ways is that “global warming” – as in the big scare story that the planet is heating up at a catastrophic unprecedented rate because of man-made CO2 emissions – is bunk; or that the methods being used to combat the problem are bunk.

 

[Robert]

The BBC has apologised for an interview with the climate change denier Lord Lawson after admitting it had breached its own editorial guidelines for allowing him to claim that global temperatures have not risen in the past decade.

BBC Radio 4’s flagship news programme Today ran the item in August in which Lawson, interviewed by presenter Justin Webb, made the claim. The last three years have in fact seen successive global heat records broken.

The Today programme rejected initial complaints from listeners, arguing that Lawson’s stance was “reflected by the current US administration” and that offering space to “dissenting voices” was an important aspect of impartiality.

However, some listeners escalated their complaint and, in a letter seen by the Guardian, the BBC’s executive complaints unit now accepts the interview breached its guidelines on accuracy and impartiality.

 

[Robert]

400 Scientific Papers in 2017 Say ‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth

That's quite a claim.
And, of course, it's misleading to the point of effectively being a flat-out lie:

... or that the methods being used to combat the problem are bunk.

Completely different issue from whether or not global warming is a myth.
If it actually was a myth there would be no problem to combat.

Another one for the fake news thread.

 

[redrumloa]

The Global Warming hoax pushers are getting desperate. Guardian News posts video of one polar bear dying, of either old age or disease, edits in dramatic music and claims it is proof of Global Warming.

The ultimate sheeple test right here. If your reaction to this video is anything other than hysterical laughter or eye rolling, you are a sheeple. Considering that there are 2.5 times more up votes than down votes, there are an awful lot of sheeple.