It's apparently ok to slander about other countries during elections

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  1. FluffyMcDeath Well-Known Member

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    The states that fight hardest to be non progressive have worse teen pregnancy stats.

    Even so, the rates seem to be falling but not as low as the rates in more socialisty countries.
  2. Speelgoedmannetje pinko commie scum

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    See where this all goes wrong? A bit googling, some vague rumours, some dodgy websites, all the sources you have are either flawed as it misses/misinterprets the essence and the subtleties in the discussion here, or blatantly and wilfully lying. Anyone can make anything up because John Doe cannot understand anything else than English. I do not know much about Santorum, but I find this way of discussing vile, especially regarding to those who tend to trust him.
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    Just because there is a conservative legislature does not equal conservative schools . What typically conservative states have high out of wedlock births? The only one I found was Mississippi (goes either Democrat or Republican so it's not a true conservative state) which was just after DC,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/13/health/13mothers.html


    And their abortion rate is?

    As I point out in the above article, it's the blue states that have the most problem, and I'll wager a very high abortion rate, like they do in the Progressive heaven of NYC where 60% of all black babies are aborted each year. Spread out among all women not catagorized in race, 40% of all pregnancies in NYC get aborted. Doesn't sound like the Progressives are doing safe sex classes to where it's effective if 40% are winding up in a garbage can.

    Pity it's too late. Couple with the very low birth rates of native Europeans, European culture as we know it will change. Imploding your population base is a bad thing as China will soon learn.
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    I wonder who has the crappiest schools and the least amount of resources in NYC.
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    New York, New Jersey, District of Columbia are the three highest states in spending per student in the nation, about double the national average.

    Utah is 51st in spending per pupil, spending only 1/3 the amount New York does

    http://www2.census.gov/govs/school/09f33pub.pdf

    Now if you look at test results of standardized testing , New York, New Jersey and District of Columbia are at the bottom
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    I love the section on how Europe is different than America
    American are way too uptight for that kind of rationality
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    @Cecilia,

    I agree. For some reason, perhaps our Puritan roots, we're far, far too worried of what's going on in our neighbor's bedrooms. Republicans always argue to legislate the bedroom not the boardroom.

    Western Europeans have a lower rate of pregnancy and a lower rate of pregnancies that are aborted through medical procedures.
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    I was Always confused by that Puritan viewpoint.

    Since I grew up with people who were born in Europe I found myself feeling like a Stranger in a Strange Land surrounded by crazy people obsessed with sex. Certainly my mother was not some 'slut' just because she's not 'puritan' .
    She's only ever slept with my father. These days that's almost shocking :D

    I grew up with people who felt sex was just a natural part of life. Like eating and breathing. Seriously, WHAT is the big deal?

    these Americans are mental cases. I knew it was a problem decades ago and it may very well be the downfall of America
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    Not the question I asked.
    In NYC, who has the crappiest schools?
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    Read feathors link.


    Covered in the link provided by faethor. Suffice to say, it's lower across the board.


    I'll take faethors links over yours. Which show state by state, that teen pregnancies occur most often in Red states. Also, where the hell are you getting 40% of all pregnancies are aborted from? The article you link to doesn't mention abortion statistics once. It only says that the US has far higher levels of teen pregnancies and abortions than the rest of the developed world, a fact backed up by faethors link.


    Repeating a lie does not make it true, no matter how much you want it to be so. And all cultures change, that is because people change. 10 years ago the likes of Bachmann were circus freaks relegated to backwater mayoral offices. These days they're in the position to try for the presidency.
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    Excellent. If someone truly believes in freedoms of the individual the right to die as defined by the individual who is dying is indeed the final freedom. We shouldn't have businesses or governments dictating limits on expressing our last and final freedom.
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    Except if the person really didn't ask to die...
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    At no time at the end of life should death be a decision other than the one made by the person who is soon to be dead. Thus, provisions should be in place to have ample checks when the person is still rational.

    For example, European nations have guidelines that are fairly good.
    1) The illness must have no possiblity of recovery.
    2) Pain must be unbearable. (So for example the only other choice is a drug high or coma for those last few days or weeks.)
    3) Other physicans must see the patient and agree the status
    4) The person must make multiple requests to multiple observers
    5) They have to be an adult
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