Bill gates wants global population near zero, vaccines help reduce population

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  1. redrumloa Super Moderator

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    Bill gates wants global population near zero, vaccines help reduce population

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    It isn't a conspiracy theory when it is in their own words.

    How can anyone nod along with eyes glazed over? Please tell me this was slickly edited like a Michael Moore film and Bill Gates really didn't say this?
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    Or you could watch the unedited video:

    http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates.html

    What he says in relation to population is that the growth could be reduced 10-15% if "we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare and reproductive healthcare". This is based on the undeniable observation that wealthier, healthier populations tend to have fewer children.

    The crux of his argument is that there are four factors, the first 2 (population and services) are just going to increase regardless. The energy required to deliver them and the ways in which the energy is produced are the factors that he is talking about reducing in a major way.
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    Say the word "vaccine" and some people go mental.
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    Think for yourself Mike.
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    I am watching the long video, thanks for the link. I certainly don't hear Bill Gates make the connection you are making yet. He clearly states that population needs to be near zero and the crowd laughs.

    To reach zero global CO2 emissions by 2050, you must kill every man, woman, child and animal on the planet.
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    Oh god, Bill Gates is promoting Al Gore's book on Global Warming. This video does not debunk the short one at all.
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    it's a good bet I'll be dead by then......plus the fact that I didn't have children you should all thank me for being the most responsible person here. :banana:
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    Red, I'm sorry, but did you even listen to what he said? He absolutely does not say that the human population needs to be reduced to zero. There's a joke implication from his simplistic observation that one of the factors in the equation has to get pretty close to zero if the entire result is going to be zero. Sure, we could wipe everybody out, but that's not his suggestion.

    In fact, he actually claims the population going to increase by a factor of about 1.3. His assertion was that we could bring that increase down by 10-15% through the means mentioned. He concedes that both the population and the services they consume are going to rise by 2050. To bring the overall equation down to zero, you have to bring down the energy consumed by providing those services for those people and secondly the carbon produced in generating that energy. The E and C factors in the equation, not the P and S.

    Yes, he said this right before he revealed his new range of WMD. That must have happened when I blinked.
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    If he didn't then he missed the very interesting part about TWRs.
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    Windows for Mobile Devices does indeed appear to be terrible, but I don't think even it can cause that kind of population decimatiion.
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    Yes, did you? It is funny how 2 different people people can listen to the same video and come to 2 completely different conclusions.
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    History just keeps repeating itself.

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  15. FluffyMcDeath Well-Known Member

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    Even the little clip you provided doesn't say what you imply it says.
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    Wow! I knew Bill Gates was a dirt bag, but the more I did the worse it gets.
    Machines of War: Blackwater, Monsanto, and Bill Gates

    Ruh-roh...

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    The word vaccine, like abortion is one of Reds berserker buttons. No sense discussing it beyond the point of either of those two words being mentioned.
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    Vaccines preventative is negative in some ways. In most of the modern world we've eradicated the debilitating childhood diseases. It's easy to think if your kid is unlikely to get sick it's ok to skip the vaccine.
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    Because I touch on a taboo subject that does not exactly follow the PC line, Whyzzat members cannot have an honest discussion. Ever stop to think why they are taboo subjects? I refuse to be sheep.
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    Whoosh.

    You talk of honest discussion, that'd require you to be an honest actor. When your berserker button is hit, you cease to be so.
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