How friendly is your State to voters?

faethor

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ification-how-friendly-is-your-state#state=AL

Alabama - 1 out of 10 friendly categories,
Florida - 4 out of 10
MN - 7 out of 10.

.... What they don't show and should is the % of voting adults. I don't find it coincidence that the states with the highest friendly categories have the larger % of citizens voting. If we care about people's say in choosing their elected official then let's improve the low voter turn out states by turning up some more friendly categories... It's that simple.
 

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ltstanfo

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Papers please.
Land of the free? But show your ID.

Impertinens...

One must present a driver license to authorities upon demand, one must present ID to renew car tags, most banks require a driver license number to authenticate / track checks with users, one generally shows proof of insurance at a doctor office or hospital to receive treatment / pay, one must show a valid driver license and proof of insurance to purchase a car from a dealer, in most states one must present ID (usually a driver license) to purchase ammunition or firearms to verify age and proof of residence in that state, etc...

So how exactly is requiring ID to vote any different? All you are demonstrating is proof of residence in that state. Most states even allow multiple types of "ID" to show verification and if you cannot afford it, they provide one for free...

http://www.alabamavoterid.com/getFreePhotoVoterID.aspx

As for preventing voting....

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/10/23/calibration-error-switches-gop-vote-to-dems/

Oh well, it is Chicago / Cook County...

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when I go vote all I need do is say my name and write my signature on their book ......But I live in a civilized part of America
 

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One must present a driver license to authorities upon demand,
Even when one is not driving a vehicle? Even without cause?
And let's not ask whether people really think that Mexico is the model to emulate. "Papers please" is what was always derided in the authoritarian societies that America used to make fun of. Now it's what Americans want?

Not to mention that a driver's license is something that one acquires at their discretion in order to demonstrate that they have received proper training to drive. Is choosing to learn to drive equivalent to the democratic right to vote? There is no right to drive - is there a right to vote or not?

So how exactly is requiring ID to vote any different?
What if the state denies you the ID? What if the state chooses to make the ID process onerous or expensive? Then you no longer even have the option of voting for people who would restore your right to vote.
I'm sure that you would have no problem getting your free ID but I could see legitimate voters having issues bootstrapping that from nothing, and I can imagine why the elites don't want those kind of people voting.

But then you get closer to the crux because elections aren't swung by onesies and twosies of lone wolf voters voting two or three times. Votes are stolen by big coordinated attacks like stripping people erroneously of the right to vote as in the "felon" scrubs of the Florida voter rolls or the dirty campaigns to robo-call voters and send them to the wrong polling stations, or wholesale dumping of ballots, forging of ballots, mishandling mail-ins etc. or, thanks to the miracle of modern technology - voting machines-

Oh - so close - but missed the mark. Stories like this one have been popular since touch voting machines have been used (and have shown votes switching both ways) and it's certainly an easy hack to misalign the screen and may result in a small percentage of misregistered votes but would only work for "honest" vote machines and we have no evidence that such a thing exists. There is no law of nature that forces the numbers that come out of the voting machine to be anything like the numbers that went in and since exit polling has been abandoned due to it suddenly not having any predictive power of outcomes since voting machines were introduced there is no sanity check on results at all.

Elections aren’t stolen by voters, elections are stolen FROM voters. The voting ID does not address any of this. It seems more like a way to force ID on people who don't yet have it - with the happy side effect that those people who can't get it or refuse to get it will have no say in future elections about how to oppress them. Ultimately we will drop the pretence and move to getting our cattle tags at birth where we are most able to determine pedigree.
 

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In Alabama,ltstanfo says, you can get free voter ID. If you can show you are registered to vote you are half way there.
In Georgia, getting on the voter rolls is already a hurdle too high for many.
Earlier this year, organizers fanned out across nearly every one of Georgia’s 159 counties and registered nearly 90 thousand people who have never voted in their lives, most of them people of color, many of them under 25 years old. But when the groups checked back in late August, comparing their registration database to the state’s public one, they noticed about 50,000 of the registrations had vanished, nearly all of them belonging to people of color in the Democratic-leaning regions around Atlanta, Savannah and Columbus.
 

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I find it interesting that Voting isn't really specified in the Constitution, except by later Amendments. The new Federal Gov decided not to define Voting and leave it up to the States. Many of which only allowed voting if you were a white, male, land property owner.
 

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"[...]voting officials in 27 states, almost all of them Republicans, have launched what is threatening to become a massive purge of black, Hispanic and Asian-American voters."

Have to wait till Oct 29th to watch the report.
 

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Born in Texas, never travelled outside of Texas, new voter-id law means he can't vote.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oof-certificate-minority-law?CMP=share_btn_fb

93 year old, he won't vote this year. Go Voter-ID, not!
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2014/10/27/3584645/texas-voter-id-pollworkers/


One study showed that - 2.2 million registered voters did not vote in 2008 because they didn't have proper ID. Not so surprisingly the GOP has never shown evidence of 2.2 million people voting that should not have voted. The Voter-ID cure is being applied for reasons that are virtually non-existent: someone voted that shouldn't. The consequence is legitimate voters are being denied an opportunity to vote.
 
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