Scotland one step closer to independence?

Worth demanding an forensic audit though (probably margin was enough to avoid a "re-count" per se)
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Will we ever know if it's true?
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I have no reason to doubt it.
I know people from both side who were present at counts.
Witnesses from each side were present at every ballot box before, during and after polling started.

The people over here who are complaining of fraud and other such have to demonstrate a plausible way of faking almost 400,000 votes. They won't be able to do that but it hasn't stopped the embarrassing and cringeworthy sore losers.

Either Scotland is 55% Englishmen or Scotland is 55% cowards and in the end, isn't that pretty much the same thing?

(There's your opening taunt for the revolution my friend)
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Well, there were plenty of English Yes voters so cowards is far more appropriate.
If I ever hear someone playing Scotland The Brave on the bagpipes again, I may be moved to violence. ;-)
 
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I think what fluffy is really trying to say is that you should revolt, and forget what you know. He'd love to see Scotland be the next Syria or Ukraine. He never cared about you or the people of Scotland, he just wants to see the breakup of the UK for his own political reasons.
 
I expected the turnout to be higher, considering the importance of the referendum.
 
Glaucus said:
I think what fluffy is really trying to say is that you should revolt,
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If the yes side is largely driven by unemployed and things don't improve then a nice quit 'yes' would likely have been preferable. However, the middle aged are trapped by their mortgages and the old are trapped by their and those are both captive to the City of London and keeping the pound would have left Scotland with virtually the same rulers.
, he just wants to see the breakup of the UK for his own political reasons.
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That's right. Pro-Scotland is anti English. Without Scotland in your the union the English people will starve and the southern part of that fair isle shall sink into the sea.

The actual people of England would be impacted not a jot unless the rulers over there decided to put a deliberate squeeze on them to raise a rabble against the Scots. But with the private interests already squeezing so hard would anyone notice?
The alternate strategy would be for the rulers of the UK to improve the quality of life for the average Englishman to lure the Scots back and the rulers of Scotland would have to create a better life for their people to justify staying separate.
 
whabangmk2 said:
I expected the turnout to be higher, considering the importance of the referendum.
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Unfortunately some people here just don't give a f*ck.
That said, it was still much higher than it usually is.
 
cecilia said:
a friend told me that there's about 500,000 English folk living in Scotland and 70% of them voted no.

however, on a more positive note:
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If that figure is true it already is pretty positive, given the way parts of the media tried to portray the campaign as anti-English. 30% of them voted yes regardless, which puts them slightly more in favour of Scottish independence than Scottish pensioners. I was with an English yes voter as the results came in.

A more interesting statistic for me is that a majority of those under the age of 55 voted yes.
 
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I'm working on a new Scottish Anthem. So far I've just got the one verse:

Scotland the brave.
To England we cave.
From cradle to the grave
We'll be London's slave.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
I'm working on a new Scottish Anthem. So far I've just got the one verse:

Scotland the brave.
To England we cave.
From cradle to the grave
We'll be London's slave.
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There's plenty of that going about. My personal favourite so far starts (to the tune of O'Flower of Scotland):

O' Shower of shitebags.....
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Will we ever know if it's true? There seems to be a lack of exit polling data (and exit polling has gone out of fashion in the last decade and a half because it seemed to differ quite a bit from the later announced results).
I'm always surprised at how close to 50/50 these things often end up. Crimea was a blowout and Donbas was pretty much the same. Scotland was 45/55 coming down to retirees vs unemployed youth. Retirees were scared to lose their pensions, I presume.
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Hang on, so on the one hand you say there's no exit poll data (which there wasn't) and then you claim that retirees voted no and the unemployed voted yes, and you imply that this was what decided the referendum. And you know this how?

Either Scotland is 55% Englishmen or Scotland is 55% cowards and in the end, isn't that pretty much the same thing?

(There's your opening taunt for the revolution my friend)
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Racist comments, nice, thank you. I ascribe 0% credibility to racists.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
I'm working on a new Scottish Anthem. So far I've just got the one verse:

Scotland the brave.
To England we cave.
From cradle to the grave
We'll be London's slave.
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Don't leave out the part about why Scotland voluntarily joined the UK, the Scottish economic disaster known as the Darien scheme.
 
whabangmk2 said:
The independence movement in Scania's defenitely hoping on a Yes - they've been trying to turn the local opinion for quite some time. :)
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Ah? Whyzzat?
@Speel is Groeningen trying to break free too?
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Well, I don't see it happening soon, but there have been protests here, and considering the Groninger mentality, there has to be a LOT of anger. Protesting is absolutely alien, something foreigners in far away countries do. But there is so much gas being extracted lately, houses nearby are on the virge of collapsing. Also medieval churches and other cultural heritage are at risk. Plus the arrogant stance of people from Holland towards us, makes it worse.
 
Speelgoedmannetje said:
Ah? Whyzzat?

Well, I don't see it happening soon, but there have been protests here, and considering the Groninger mentality, there has to be a LOT of anger. Protesting is absolutely alien, something foreigners in far away countries do. But there is so much gas being extracted lately, houses nearby are on the virge of collapsing. Also medieval churches and other cultural heritage are at risk. Plus the arrogant stance of people from Holland towards us, makes it worse.
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So what you're saying is that on top of the land only being land thanks to the dike systems, it's only as high as it is thanks to it being sat on a giant whoopie cushion?

You guys just can't catch a break can you? :lol:
 
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