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Large amounts of troops and equipment are being moved into the region of Ukraine. In other words there is a significant force build up.

But it's not an offensive force build up, it's a reassuring force build up. Isn't that nice.

And, as usual, you need to read almost to the end for the punchline.

So far there has been no sign during the Ukraine crisis that Russia, whose defense budget is just 10 percent of NATO military spending, poses a military threat to any member nation.
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Oh, it is to guffaw.
 
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I still think that Putin will sit tight and petition the world leaders for some sense. Ukraine will fall apart and the new government will be forced to fight its own citizens not only in the East but everywhere. Food prices have doubled in a week and people are not happy.
If the Americans show up in force they are going to start looking like chumps if they have to participate in crowd control for the regime. I looks like a long rough road for the people of Ukraine. Hey, maybe Mike will urge his MP to send them weapons. You know how he likes to arm people fighting against their unelected governments.
Crimea got the better deal - though Kiev is cutting the water supply to Crimea in retaliation.

On the other hand, Paul Craig Roberts doesn't think Putin could survive politically if he didn't do something.
 
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FluffyMcDeath said:
Perhaps at least it makes you honest, that you admit you respond without giving an opposing view a fair reading.
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No, I'm just the only honest one here and I see no reason to converse with a liar.
 
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Robert said:
Whyzzat, the site populated entirely by liars, with the notable exception of "honest Mike".
:lol:
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No offense, but you haven't added much to this thread have you? That leaves me, metalman and fluffy. I trust neither of those two, which brings me back to my original post in this thread.
 
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Glaucus said:
No offense, but you haven't added much to this thread have you?
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Well, that's all a matter of opinion. I've just scanned through the thread again and, from my perspective, I've added more of substance than you have.

But then I would say that, wouldn't I?
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Ukraine Falters in Drive to Curb Unrest in East


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/15/world/europe/russia-east-ukraine.html?referrer=

Begs the question why didn't we see headlines that said:
Ukraine Falters in Drive to Curb Unrest in Maiden

Still, seems that the government is having trouble quelling those pesky citizens who don't like the new coup government. Shall we send some of our people and weapons over there so that the Ukrainians we want running the country can kill the ones who don't want them running the country? Would that be egalitarian, democrat and humane?
 
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About a week ago I noticed a senate committee had passed a resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide.
http://www.armenianweekly.com/2014/...ommittee-adopts-armenian-genocide-resolution/
Generally the US has been deferential to Turkey on this matter. Turkey would rather it not be recognized. In that light this seemed like a tiny poke (being otherwise meaningleas) at Turkey but there didn't seem to be any reason for it. Perhaps it is just meaningless but maybe it is a display of displeasure.
However, it seems that Turkey may be thwarting US efforts against Russia ... once again, geography matters.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/vie...-The-key-in-The-Russia-Ukraine-EU-crisis.html
Turkey controls access to the Black Sea.


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Just try to parse this whacky story.
First, let's start with the headline:
East Ukraine breaks Easter truce with fatal shooting


Let's see what East Ukraine did to break that truce.​
Three pro-Russian militants and one attacker were killed early on Sunday in a firefight at a roadblock close to the separatist-held town of Slaviansk, a local pro-Kremlin rebel leader, Vyatcheslav Ponomarev, said.
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Bam! Did you get that fair and balanced western propaganda free objective report?​
The pro-Russians are militants. Some guys attacked them. That means the eastern Ukrainians, by engaging the attackers, broke the truce. Oh yes, and the "militants" are also "pre-Kremiln rebels".​
Vladimir, a masked 20-year-old pro-Russian rebel who was at the barricade, told AFP: ‘‘Four cars pulled up to our roadblock around 1am. We wanted to conduct a check, and then they opened fire on us with automatic weapons.’’
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Glaucus said:
And you fluffy are a piece of shit.
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Robert said:
Perhaps you need a wee lie doon?
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Under current collegiate tournament debate rules, you can use profanity-laced tirades, throw furniture, and use racial slurs

Glaucus would have scored points for that rebuttal, but would have been docked for not rapping it and calling Fluffy a Commie loving cracker, Uh huh
 
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